R&B newcomer Muni Long has plenty to talk about these days. From gearing up to bless the world with a studio effort to getting Drake’s attention, the popular crooner links with Apple Music 1’s Ebro Darden to dig deep into her music grind.

Muni Long talk Drake, songwriting and new music with Apple Music’s R&B Now Radio

According to Long, she used the Internet to really crack into the music biz. She credits writing her own music and teaching herself how to play online as the root of her career taking off.

“I started writing my own stuff, taught myself how to play using the internet. There was a couple websites that I would go to, to learn. And I started writing and posting my own songs. And that's when I really started becoming viral. My first song that I wrote on the guitar was just plucking the top string, because I didn't know how to play yet. That video got me a million hits. And then the next one I did singing dictionary. Like I sang the first five pages of dictionary over the Glamorous beat. Fergie, Glamorous. That got a million hits. And then I recorded a cover of Best I Ever Had where I like played it on guitar, sang it instead of rapped it. That went viral so much. So that Drake reached out to me. And he was like, "Yo, I love what you did with the song." He gave me his number, we're talking. Mind you now, I'm just out of high school. You know? And I was watching him on Degrassi when I was in middle school and high school. So I'm like, "Oh my God, this is Aubrey Graham. This is amazing! Wheelchair Jimmy." And so, I remember talking to him back then. And he's like, "Yeah, I'm an actor. I'm trying to get into music. I did this mix tape for Valentine's Day. Didn't really take it serious. People love it. I'm singing. Lil Wayne wants to sign me.” So, I mean, and not just him. Fantasia, Pharrell ... So many people because my videos were spreading all over the internet. And from there, I fast forward a couple years, I got signed to Capitol Records about 18 years old.” (R&B Now Radio on Apple Music 1)

More than anything, Muni is determined to remain successful as both in front of the camera and behind the scenes.

“At a certain point, there were things that I just wanted to say, and I wanted to express. When you are providing a service for somebody else, it's like ... Imagine if you went to McDonald's right, and you said you wanted a Quarter Pounder with cheese. And they were like, "Nah, I think you should get the nuggets." Throw some lettuce and some tomato in there with the nuggets, get you some onion rings." Like, "But I want fries." You know? So you would be very frustrated. Right? So that's what it's like when you're a songwriter. They want to Quarter Pounder with cheese, do your best to give them a Quarter Pounder with cheese. Don't remix the recipe. Don't throw some extra seasoning in there that you feel like ... It's not about you. It's about them. If I would've written Hrs And Hrs and [inaudible], nobody would have cut that song. Or they would ask me to change the lyrics. ”” (R&B Now Radio on Apple Music 1)

The Hrs and Hrs she put in

Long also talked to Darden about her ‘Hrs and Hrs’ anthem blowing up. Specifically, she focused on the state of R&B in 2022.

“So let's just think about the landscape of the business right now. The R&B girls, SZA, Jhene Aiko, Kehlani, Summer Walker, they all write their own stuff. And Beyoncé. Those are the ones who probably were worthy of a record like this. I understand the value of the songs that I write, and that they write. They really can change someone's life. Like, what it has done for me. You know? So you can't just go giving it away to everybody. Especially since people don't want to pay. So now I'm going to have to go out here and pitch, and pitch, and pitch, and pitch. And you end up becoming frustrated and angsty. Like, "I know this is an incredible record. Why is nobody taking a bait?" Even Jazmine, she writes her own stuff. So who? Who Would I have given it to? And then I would've had to go over to the pop side, and maybe try to give it to an Ariana Grande. Somebody who can actually really sing it, you know? And then there's that cultural conflict, right? Where I'm like, "Why can't my brown and black musicians have a crossover hit? Why does it always have to feel like in order for this R&B sounding thing to be pop, it has to be sang by somebody who's light or white? Why? ”” (R&B Now Radio on Apple Music 1)

It’s all about the money

While fans might want her to rush and drop greatness, Long acknowledged the importance of keeping financial factors on the radar.

“I think I mean, I'm playing both sides of the fence here. I'm the artist and the creative, but I'm also paying for it. I have to think about cost of the whole thing. And I think this is actually the third EP that I put out on Supergiant. The first one is called, Black Like This. The second one is called, Nobody Knows. Then this one is called Public Display of Affection. Put them all out in the space of a year. Those were like the warmups. It was getting people used to my aesthetic. Getting people used to the sound that I was bringing. Slowly introducing ... Because one thing that I did understand is that I couldn't come out the gate being too good, too fast. Because there's something called the uncanny valley. Right? Let's let them ingest it. Let's let them feel like they was with me shooting in the gym. You'll see people saying, "I'm responsible for at least a million of those streams," you know? ”” (R&B Now Radio on Apple Music 1)

If all the stars align, Muni will have huge collaborations in the books. These guest features include everyone from Doja Cat and The Weeknd to legends like Quincy Jones.

“So I want to take my time on the album. I want it to be really good. What I hoped, is that I would attract enough attention, and the right kind of attention, they would see an artist and not a songwriter, and want to work with Muni Long. On Muni Long stuff. Not- Don't come over and be like, "Oh yeah, I want to work with you on your album." And then next thing, I'm getting a call saying, "Oh, Rihanna wants to cut it." You know? So I've been asking. There's a lot of people who I'm like, "Hey, I'm doing something, I would love for you to come through." No response, putting me off. "Okay, cool." A lot of them have come I'm back since- Like, "Yo, oh my God. We got to get in." And I'm just like, "I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that." Because everything I'm doing is it's all about the intent. It's all about the intent. It's the reason why I'm talking to you. Is because when I hit you up, you answer. And it has nothing to do about what it looks like on the outside. But yeah, I would love to work with like, Doja, The Weekend, Drake, Beyonce, Pharrell, Quincy Jones, that would be incredible. There's just so many, there's literally so many. And I do have a couple that I'm working on right now. But just in case nothing comes of it, I wouldn't want to put pressure on those people by saying anything about who they are. But there's a lot of genuine interest. Which, after sort some of the tidal wave sort of dies down from this song, I'll be able to take my time and get back in the studio and be creative. But it doesn't take me a long time. I mean, you saw how fast I could write.”” (R&B Now Radio on Apple Music 1)