Summer Walker & Kali Uchis: The R&B divas dish on wellness, privacy and global flexing

It’s no secret R&B singer Summer Walker stays on her grind. So it’s only right the crooner pulls through with Apple Music to dish out everything from wellness and privacy to the power of ownership.

Summer Walker dishes on everything with Apple music

It’s a solid Q&A session alongside entertainer Kali Uchis with ample must-see and must-hear moments. Peep the big moments.

Kali Uchis Talks to Summer Walker About Being Over Social Media…

Kali Uchis: Well, when I was pregnant, obviously I just felt like I needed to take a huge step away for my mental health and everything like that. And then after giving birth, I feel like my child makes me more present than I've ever been. As a mom, I'm sure you understand. It's almost like getting able to live your childhood over again. You feel like that innocence of just being in the moment, and you know how it used to be where we were just more present? So realizing that that made me the most happiest, those moments where I'm just holding him and I just don't even know where my phone is for hours and hours and hours, it felt so good that it just made me never go back yet. I never got TikTok again. I never got Twitter again. I really only use Instagram. That's the only app that I use. But besides that, sometimes I'm really out of the loop with stuff because everybody's filling me in from Twitter and whatever.

Summer Walker: I love that. I feel like most of my negativity in my life comes from social media, so I definitely get it because regular life is pretty good.

Kali Uchis and Summer Walker Talk About Making Healthier Lifestyle Choices…

Summer Walker: I'm joined by the angel, Kali Uchis. She just told me what she's finally over and I have to say for me, I am finally over how you're like over plastic, I am over the chemicals in the food. It's actually driving me nuts because it's actually scary nowadays. You don't know. It's crazy. You actually have to be like, is this real food today? So I got to go all the way down far to the farmer's market so I can get me some real fruit and some real meat. It's crazy. So yeah, that's stressing me out.

Kali Uchis: Yeah, well, they said colon, C-word is going to be the leading in a couple of years in this country. So I think cutting out the processed food is super important for sure.

Summer Walker: No, it's so important. It's been stressing me out so bad. I literally was just, I'm building a greenhouse and a chicken coop and everything-... right now, trying to get it together.

Kali Uchis: I have a vegetable garden, but I don't have a chicken coop, which I have wanted for a long time. In Columbia, that was like, our backyard was like, we go and pick the eggs.

Kali Uchis and Summer Walker Give Advice on Picking Yourself Up…

Summer Walker: If you were going to do a how-to guide for someone who needed to pick themselves up in life or just that day, what's your regimen if you just not feeling it that day?

Kali Uchis: My advice to other people, for me, I feel like growing up a lot of the times how I would pick myself back up, I'll always imagine my life as a movie. And I would just think like, oh, this is just the part of the movie where it's like this or like that. But eventually, I'm going to get to the part where it's good, or I kind of just always think of the fact that every day, we're granted the chance to start over and that always makes me feel better. I would just go to sleep and start over.

Summer Walker: I really feel that–you have tomorrow.

Kali Uchis: Exactly.

Summer Walker: Don't get too hung up on it. For me, I just try to make a spa day.

Kali Uchis: Okay, I love that.

Summer Walker: But not even like, even before I had the money to go to the spa, I would make me a spa day.

Kali Uchis Talks to Summer Walker About Protecting Their Children’s Privacy…

Summer Walker: Do you want to in any way speak about the love of your life, your baby? I know I'm very private when it comes to him.

Kali Uchis: Yeah, for sure. I love talking about my son. Yeah, there's nothing too personal. I would never share his name. I know you're on the same page with a lot of stuff.

Summer Walker: I try not to do the faces. I put their middle names on there or I put their names, but I lied and said it was different. Either way, nobody knows what's what, but-

Kali Uchis: Their real information.

Summer Walker: Yeah, I feel you.

Kali Uchis: It's so important. And it's really strange to me that so many people don't understand why it's so important. There's a lot of people, they'll be like, "Why do you even post your kid if you don't show his face?" Or, "Why don't you tell us his birthday?" And it's like, why do you feel entitled to my kid's information? That's weird.

Summer Walker: I'm glad I got to talk about this with you, because I feel like a lot of people post their kids, almost everybody posts their kids, and I don't really know too many people that have to deal with that. That's so irritating. People have full-blown cussed me out about not being able to see my baby's face.

Kali Uchis: And that's really strange to me.

Summer Walker: It's scary.

Kali Uchis: Right, because it's like, yeah, because people make whole accounts for other people's kids. Why would you want somebody to make an account for your kid? Or be calling themselves your kid, change their profile to your kid's name. They have parasocial relationships with strangers. Why would I want you to have a parasocial relationship with my child?

Summer Walker: I checked my DM once and somebody sent me, you know how I always put the emojis or the blurs? Somebody sent me all the pictures of my kids with the blurs and the emojis off. I said, now that's some scary shit. They have an app or something-

Kali Uchis: Oh, yeah, they can take the emojis off.

Summer Walker: They took it off.

Kali Uchis: Yeah, they can take the emojis off. I saw that.

Summer Walker: But that's scary. Why'd you go and take the time to do that? What do you want to see them for? To do what?

Kali Uchis: It's scary ass people in the world.

Summer Walker: Yeah, it's scary.

Kali Uchis: They're very weird. But that was why for so long I kept my pregnancy private as well, because I just don't play about that stuff about privacy.

Summer Walker: Well, now that you brought it up, that's all I was sitting here thinking. That's why I don't post them, because-

Kali Uchis: No, why would you want anyone to have your child's photos, their face? It's like anybody could do anything-

Summer Walker: Their birthday, anything, yeah.

Kali Uchis: ... with that information. No.

Summer Walker: That's literally actually the reason I don't post them, because people get weird.

Kali Uchis: Access. Nobody deserves access to your child.

Kali Uchis Talks to Summer Walker About Her Candle Brand, Homebody by Uchis…

Summer Walker: So we discussed you are an artist, you are a musician, but you are also a business owner. So Homebody is what it's called. Can you tell me about that?

Kali Uchis: It's called Homebody by Uchis.

Summer Walker: Is there a song that inspired you to create these products?

Kali Uchis: I want to say a song inspired the products, but I would say I try to definitely incorporate my music into the titles. So for instance, the first collection was all rose. So I called it the Wish You Roses collection. Or I have a candle that has a little bit more of a musky essence to it, so I'll call it Moonlight Candle. You know what I'm saying? I try to find a way to make them coexist and whatever. But I want to say that the products was inspired by them though. Yeah.

Summer Walker: I'm going to definitely be buying some of them candles because I'm-

Kali Uchis: I have to send you, no, I have you on my PR list.

Summer Walker: Oh, good.

Kali Uchis: Yeah.

Summer Walker: I'm a candle girl, but once I figured out what was in the candles, I stopped burning them. But I definitely want that.

Kali Uchis: Yeah. Even certain candles that I thought didn't have any synthetic fragrance, and then I was going to the stores and I was asking the people in the stores everything that was in them. And they're like, "Oh, no. Well, yes, it is natural, but then we still have some synthetic in it too."

Summer Walker: No, there's some-

Kali Uchis: They get really tricky with the wording.

Summer Walker: There's some scary candles out here.

Kali Uchis: It really is.

Summer Walker: I knew when it was me and my mom and my daughter. I just love to burn candles. But we had the door closed, it was a smaller room in LA. And after an hour or so, I woke up, I was like, what the hell? I thought I left the oven on for CO2 poisoning or something. We was about to pass out, and once I blew the candle out, we was fine. I was like, what the fuck is in that? So I'm going to be checking your candles out.

Kali Uchis: Yeah, the oxygen, the way that they can change the oxygen is crazy. But yeah, it's all soy, coconut-based wax.

Summer Walker: Oh, nice.

Kali Uchis: Cotton wicks. No artificial fragrance. So yeah, I'm excited about that, because I love to burn candles too, so I was heartbroken when I realized what it was doing to my air quality as well.